{"id":23845,"date":"2020-05-28T17:17:00","date_gmt":"2020-05-28T08:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/?p=23845"},"modified":"2020-10-20T15:28:59","modified_gmt":"2020-10-20T06:28:59","slug":"coffeebreak-058","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/ja\/coffeebreak-058\/","title":{"rendered":"\u7b2c58\u53f7 &#8211; \u9b45\u529b\u7684\u306a\u8857\u8def\u706f\u3092\u6c42\u3081\u3066"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Interviewer: Niken Wulandari<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/image-1-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23692\" srcset=\"https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/image-1-1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/image-1-1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/image-1-1-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/image-1-1-800x534.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Image-2-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23693\" width=\"321\" height=\"241\" srcset=\"https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Image-2-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Image-2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/shomei-tanteidan.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Image-2-768x576.jpg 768w, 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<strong>:<\/strong> \u305d\u3046\u3060\u306d\u3002\u91cd\u8981\u306a\u6b74\u53f2\u3092\u793a\u3057\u4fa1\u5024\u3092\u751f\u307f\u51fa\u3059\u3002\u3067\u3082\u591c\u306b\u3064\u3044\u3066\u306f\u3001\u79c1\u305f\u3061\u304c\u3053\u308c\u306b\u5c11\u3057\u30a2\u30c9\u30d0\u30a4\u30b9\u3067\u304d\u308b\u306d\u3002\u3053\u308c\u306f\u53e4\u3044\u8857\u706f\u306e\u3088\u3046\u3067\u3001\u3068\u3066\u3082\u3044\u3044\u306d\u3002\u30e6\u30cb\u30fc\u30af\u3067\u6b74\u53f2\u306e\u91cd\u8981\u3055\u3092\u8868\u3057\u3066\u3044\u308b\u3002\u3067\u3082\u7167\u660e\u306e\u52b9\u679c\u306f\u307e\u305f\u5225\u3068\u3057\u3066\u898b\u306a\u304f\u3066\u306f\u3044\u3051\u306a\u3044\u3002\u3069\u3046\u3084\u308c\u3070\u3001\u3053\u306e\u8857\u706f\u3092\u3088\u308a\u826f\u304f\u3059\u308b\u3053\u3068\u304c\u3067\u304d\u308b\u3060\u308d\u3046\u3002<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Niken:<\/strong>  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